PhoneFreak45, 9 hours agoWell after looking it up it seems 2 years updates 3 years patches. What I don’t get rid of… moresony shill detected. Why do I have to think about the product from the company’s perspective? I have to take the product at face value. What if someone wants more updates instead of a microSD card slot or a headphone jack? You know your priorities and that’s why you support those companies and I recommend them too, but ultimately the customer wants a safe product they can rely on. That’s why everyone uses iPhones, not many people complain because they are happy with the great software that is the most important part of everything these days. Sony’s heating issues and lack of software support/consistency make them a niche brand for “enthusiasts”. That price tag, too.
I don’t like this chip or this design.
First, using 4nm nodes is basically a revamped 5nm node.
Second, A715 is a revised A710 hence X3 is a revised X2 core.
Third, mixing too many cores leads to latency issues. That is bad.
Finally, this is still an 8 core configuration when ARM increased it to 12 cores.
The above device will not be more efficient or powerful than the QC 8g1+. It will only show improvements in theoretical or synthetic tests. Real-world performance will be equal. At least it won’t be as thirsty, hot and sluggish as the QC 8g1, QSD 888+ and QSD 888… all of which underperformed the much cheaper QSD 870.
As said before, wait for late 2023 iPhones or early 2024 Android phones. That’s when we get a real node jump to the TSMC-3nm and a proper processor upgrade to the 2nd gen ARMv9 cores with the Cortex- A730. The Nuvia cores would hit the market just like 2019-2020, they are no longer impressive. You won’t see them on phones as they target the (ARM book) laptop segment, it may appear on the high-end/luxury large tablet side.
Another anecdote: Microsoft’s roadmap had anticipated their next platform (“Windows 20”?) in 2024, which may still get the green light. So far, Windows11 has not been great and the pandemic has affected their progress with their roadmap.
Pathetic Samsung, keeps using the same phones with the same internals every year. 8GB RAM satarted with S10 wtf???
Anonymous, 7 hours agoWe know that Geekbench is designed for Apple silicon and antutu is designed for Android based process… moreGeekbench was never designed with Apple in mind. It was primarily an x86 benchmark.
Later (at version 3) it was ported to Android and iOS.
That’s a huge improvement!
A link to the results: browser. geek couch. com/v5/cpu/18007997
I’m glad I skipped the last two generations of phones.
I expected a Nuvia IP-based design to rival Zen4/Raptor Lake/Apple A14, but even this amount of performance looks really great.
NoName, 8 hours agoIf this is going to be the final design of the S23, I’m not impressed. They get uglier every year si… moreThen get out of here
We know that Geekbench is designed for Apple silicon and antutu is designed for Android based processors like Qualcomm or mediatek.
a Qualcomm processor that scores less than an Apple bionic processor on Geekbench is decent, but if those numbers are legit, it’s really disappointing.
Anonymous, 9 hours agoAce 2 announced last year with Android 11 gets Android 13. Better than 5 versions… moreMy iPhone came with iOS 12, it now runs on iOS 16. It’s just as fast as when it was new. I don’t know why people keep repeating how iPhones get slow just because of the update.
Fenzyd, 8 hours agoQualcomm Snapdragon closes the gap as fast as an appleWHERE. But even if it was worse, I would choose it anytime. Android is a joy to use.
Elder, 8 hours agoDac for? People need phonesListening to music. Literally doesn’t affect the phone side of having a DAC at all.
Fenzyd, 8 hours agoQualcomm Snapdragon closes the gap as fast as an appleThey surpass them 4 years ago
PhoneFreak45, 8 hours agoBut if you can’t keep it for three years, wouldn’t you rather have other hardware good… moreDac for? People need phones
Qualcomm Snapdragon closes the gap as fast as an apple
Elder, 8 hours agoIt’s about the value, like who will ever buy your 500k km car everyone knows at 600k dies Sa… moreBut if you don’t keep it for three years, wouldn’t you rather have other hardware goodies, like a nice DAC?
If this is going to be the final design of the S23, I’m not impressed. They’re getting uglier every year since S21.
PhoneFreak45, 9 hours agoWell after looking it up it seems 2 years updates 3 years patches. What I don’t get rid of… moreIt’s about value, like who will ever buy your 500k km car that everyone knows dies at 600k?
Same here after 2-3 years, no one wants a stuck phone anymore
Sshock, 9 hours ago3 years updates. Where and since when? It’s a miracle when you get 1 year from Sony that… moreWell after looking it up it seems 2 years updates 3 years patches. What I don’t understand is why that’s a deal breaker for you, am I right to assume you’re getting a phone before 3 years anyway? Moreover, it is not the case that a new operating system is really that important. Android 12 almost didn’t change my V60, but look, still fine and usable. Not more usable than on Android 11, but no less. I would also encourage you to look at it from the company’s perspective. Sony’s mobile division has only 5000 employees who release 4 phones a year with 2 years of updates. They also sell a lot less than Samsung because there is a lot of advertising for Samsung. However, for the amount of people out there, they have released some great phones. They are the only company to keep the microSD card slot and headphone jack in 2022. I don’t know if you were going to say anything, but first let me point out that a microSD card takes up about as much space as a SIM card in a phone, doesn’t affect the water resistance as it already requires a SIM tray, and can triple the amount of storage you have, even if you opt for a 512GB Xperia. Storage that’s fast enough for 4K 60FPS recording, making it easy to watch videos or listen to locally stored music. Say what you want it to be slow, but the point remains that it’s fast enough to do all the things you need extra storage space for. As for the headphone jack… Well, good audio never ages, and having a headphone jack doesn’t affect you in any way. No one should specifically want a headphone jack on their phone, even if you prefer wireless it won’t hurt you. Mini rant closed, more against people who don’t like that sort of thing than you ^
Sshock, 9 hours ago3 years updates. Where and since when? It’s a miracle when you get 1 year from Sony that… moreAce 2 announced last year with Android 11 is getting Android 13.
Better than 5 versions of the OS that makes the device slow like Galaxy Y. Exactly what happens to iPhone.
I know many former iPhone users who got tired of slow devices after so many updates.
By the way, I still haven’t received any bug fix introduced with iOS14. Already at 15.6, still the same nonsense.
I wonder why it closes apps when 3 are open when my phone doesn’t even with 100+ apps open.
The iOS is even more crappy than Android 12, which is the worst Android since Android 4.0
PhoneFreak45, 10 hours agoDon’t know until you have experience with them all. Sony makes a number of high-quality handsets… more3 years updates. Where and since when? It’s a miracle when you get 1 year from Sony that’s why I never thought of looking at any of them let alone actually buying it. Would consider if it is really 3 years now. But then it is also important how up-to-date they are. Getting Android 13 while Android 14 is already out is like having no updates at all.
Sshock, 10 hours agoLots of crap brands with bad software support that is.TROLL DETECTED
Man no brand is better. Just a small question why is it good to have for example 5 OS updates if your hardware can’t keep up with your software.
After 5 years (in which 99% people will exchange their device for a new one for a long time, half of them have a 3rd device that they exchange every 2 years) so again after 5 years you end up with a device with the latest software but unable to run even most basic apps which will also be updated to the latest versions.
For example, in 2015, my Lenovo Vibeshot had a great time and era phone for $400 with 3GB of ram and 32GB of storage and played my favorite clash of lords game with no ay laggs bugs etc.
Today the same game runs on the same phone but updated to the last update of September 2022 2022 wouldn’t even allow me to play the game, not to mention it’s impossible to do battles because of the improved graphics in the game compared to the same game from 2015. Many others improved too.
Even Facebook is not the same as it was many years ago.
And trust me, most apps won’t run properly or at all on old hardware.
That’s all I want to say.